These helicopters are the largest that are used for fighting wildfires and can carry between 700 and 3,000 gallons of water or fire retardant. It just will. National Maintenance Agreement, Robert Hoffman,Contracting Officer We are all for the push for better equipment for our wildland fire efforts but the USFS cant do the change this suddenly and without any industry input. You have to love the obvious FS sycophants on here making contemptuous, defensive and specious arguments. Fire managers recognized the value of helicopters to rapidly transport personnel and cargo to a fire, especially in remote locations. endstream
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U.S. Forest Service Contracting | US Forest Service In my experience last year, the surge helicopters ended up on large fires, because there were so many and the need was there. I would encourage folks to contact their Congressional Representatives (once again) about problems with government contracting for fire-fighting aircraft. Office: (208) 387-5350Mobile: (208) 258-1450, Tessa Bach, Contract Coordinator Examples include an ax or pulaski, tire chains, 5-person first aid kit, and rollover protection. I agree, to me aggressive initial attack means sending aircraft during initial response, but thats not happening anywhere except CA, that I know of. Office: (208) 387-5695 Mobile: (208) 860-7334
PDF Welcome to the Nation's Logistical Support Center | National Have a fire aviation news tip? October 27, 2021 Forest Service Response: The USFS recognizes the importance of safety recommendation A-10-168 and continues to refine Flight Data Monitoring requirements. Heres an idea that probably nobody will like. Just like how the new GM Suburban for Diplomates costs millions of dollars each and the contract went to the one company that can make it. I think stating more aggressive firing operations is suitable for the Bush Fire, right- sir? Talking to the local authority of that Bush Fire area- depending on the rainfall it will wipe out watersheds roads endstream
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Anyone who served in the military knows that Uncle Sam Air is the most inefficient airline in the world, and having worked there is in no way a guarantee that you are the best subject matter expert on anything. Finally on December 13 they threw in the towel, saying, The USFS has determined there is not enough time for an adequate response from industry, a complete evaluation by the government, and ultimately timely award prior to the start of 2022 mandatory availability periods.. You FS boys need to stop trying to blame the messenger and take the feedback from industry to heart. Woodbury, Bush, and other fires)., As sharedThe Tonto NF blatantly cancelled requests for aggressive initial attack on the Woodbury Fire., I think the Forest Service has zero comprehension of the new breed of forensic fire weather folks quietly documenting all these actionsI hope they understand many savvy folks are watching in prior years and they will continue to do so, Me. The Branch is comprised of two teams; aviation and logistics. february 16, 2021 for contracts awarded 2018-2021 (cwn/exclusive use) (for contracts awarded 1/1/2018 and after) company aircraft type fuel consumption (gal/hr) february 16, 2021 hourly flight rate ($/hr) What light twin replaces a 407? Certainly valid concerns regarding the quantity of helicopters to transition and timeline. NIFC Operations Support CTS Language Link (On-Demand Remote Interpreting (OPI & VRI) and Document Translation) PADD202000297. Bill wrote 3 sentences without even putting his opinion in, the overwhelming response is that the only people happy or satisfied with this RFP are the people who wrote it. Response from industry-leading? There is no cost, and in case you change your mind each email has an unsubscribe button. What you all have put out leaves these folks in harms way.you guys ok with that on your souls. Faintly, what are the advertisement you see posted on this site? The fleet remained at that level until the COVID-19 pandemic hit in 2020 when they added an additional 22 ships for a total of 50. The U.S. Forest Service has 18 large air tankers on exclusive use (EU) contracts this year. At the beginning of the 2017 western fire season there were 20 large and very large air tankers on EU contracts plus two water-scooping air tankers. Maybe the PM, HS and the CO should talk to some a/c financing companies to better understand the reality of upgrading or buying new equipment. helicopter services hourly flight rates, fuel consumption, and weight reduction chart effective . agency that, more and more, is becoming its own worst enemy, as well as ours! So given these facts, what do you think they are trying to achieve in ultimately reducing the number of a/c in a time when we need more of them? Companies like Construction Helicopters are even putting together S-61 ships and crews for Afghanistan. The National Interagency Aviation Council study that was approved by the National Wildfire Coordinating Group in July, 2008, recommended that there be on contract in 2012, 34 Type 1 helicopters . The agency felt the surge helicopters were necessary to mitigate a possible decrease in the effectiveness or numbers of their ground forces engine and hand crews. Max Graham, Space for Giants_ CONTENTS Even if a vendor received a guaranteed five-year contract it can be difficult to establish and implement a long-term business plan that would make sense to their banker and the solvency of the company. The cheapest camera we could find is $10,000. Erickson Incorporated announced three new USFS Firefighting contracts for the upcoming 2021 wildfire season. Provides support to both the Aviation and Logistics Branch Chiefs A .gov website belongs to an official government organization in the United States. I also assume that the CO just channeled the PM and HSs needs for the program. Very Large Airtankers (VLAT)are capable of delivering over 8,000 gallons of fire retardant to support firefighters on the ground. Access to these sites is restricted and the information and files provided through these sites is not intended for general disclosure or distribution to anyone other than Authorized Government Representatives and solely for the purpose of facilitating the performance of their Official Duties with respect to their administration of these contracts. There are certainly concerns with moving to a twin engine platform related to performance, and Im not currently versed enough in all of the platforms to have an opinion, but I do know that this article doesnt address it and instead seems to be a sounding board for industry without presenting the case for increased firefighter safety and performance in modern aircraft.
USFS to contract for 48 Type 1 helicopters this year Enter your email address to subscribe and receive notifications of new posts by email. Air resources were cancelled at the Forest level, isnt that correct? This amounts to budget dollars that would have to be tied to each individual contract and could not be utilized anywhere else. 'KD,.QQD
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Tj4B%0qz8Qa. Daniels Electronics (Public Safety Communications Products, Services and Solutions) PADD20221183. Call-When-Needed (CWN) Airtankers 2.1 Unfortunately your assumption is incorrect, the program manager has several years experience in aviation operations and the Helicopter Specialist is one of the best around and also has several years of experience. Jeffrey McGinley, Associate Branch Chief, Aviation They can typically carry 700 gallons of water or retardant via a bucket or a snorkel that fills an internal tank. Cell phone gps location, sat phones and ADSB are far more useful. Your last sentence in the nail in the coffin.seeing as that this contract will be LPTA and a year to year option, how do you finance a new a/c that will surely be $2-$4M on the low end? Time to take care of my health morehave my brain ss procedure soon. Base model costs 50k where does the rest go???
National Exclusive Use Airtanker Service Contract: Fillable, Printable In 2018 when the Forest Service began issuing one-year contracts for air tankers we wrote: Few if any vendors can simply write a check to purchase and convert an air tanker, so they have to convince a lender to give them large sums of money usually even before they have a contract with the USFS. I will say this contracts.
Statewide Contracts List View | State Division of Purchasing In addition, the federal land management agencies said last year they were going to limit the number of less-than-full-suppression fires and attack new ignitions aggressively. These helicopters are the largest that are used for fighting wildfires and can carry between 700 and 3,000 gallons of water or fire retardant. In 2016 the FS hired 34 Type 1 helicopters but starting in 2017 reduced the number to 28. CO Support on all major contract programs (Mobile Food Services, Mobile Showers, Type 2 & 2-IA Crews, Retardant Chemicals), Contractor Performance Assessment Reporting System (CPARS) Alternate Focal Point That has to come from Congress to the FS and DOI Chiefs, and then down to them. Click here. Let the folks who have ADSB be exempt from ELT burden. Given the current climate of helicopter contracts there will be more people getting out of helicopters than getting into them.
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Helicopters cost pennies in comparison if you need to cancel them (or nothing if they dont even get off the ground!). The single vs twin vs safety argument doesnt have a clear winner unless youre talking about CAT A capable aircraft. Typos, let us know, and please keep in mind the commenting ground rules before you post a comment. But we think we are really on the right track with our air tankers.. usfs type 1 helicopter contracts 2021. by | Jun 10, 2022 | flores para iglesia matrimonio | poway high school bell schedule 2021 | Jun 10, 2022 | flores para iglesia matrimonio | poway high school bell schedule 2021 The NWCG Standards for Wildland Fire Resource Typing establishes minimum typing standards for aircraft, crews, and equipment for national mobilization to wildland fire incidents. Melinda Draper, Associate Branch Chief, Logistics, Click here. Much of the defense budget is spent in countries on the other side of the world. Do you know anything that can replace a CH-54/S-64 or an S-61? Thats discouraging as it suggests that the customer really isnt listening and just providing the perception of doing so.your point of just not choosing to submit if an operator doesnt like it is incredibly insensitive and uninformed.
Forest Service says there's not enough time to issue new helicopter Nope. The States contracted for Fed approved airtankers so just like we all share resources like engines and shot crews now we can share airtankers too.
PDF 2023 US FOREST SERVICE AIRTANKERS - SCHEDULE OF ITEMS (Mar 1, 2023) Time management skills and Proper Prior Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance is not a skill this outfit excels in.time to get back to timber management and master THAT, if thats possible before trying to re write contracts.maybe this outfit needs to hire some of us aviation professionals to assist the other professional mechanics and pilots on the USFS staff.surely they could assist in helping the contract office in being more realistic, First off its not the contracting office that is being unrealistic. Shame on them!! I do not know of any small operators who can afford to buy new ships, if any are even available.
U.S. Forest Service and Interagency Aviation Publications CONTRACTING FOR FIRE. hbbd``b`~@q3`~$X@ "7 0%Hd) 7 a&(F? . These are the largest helicopters used for fighting wildland fires in the United States and can carry between 700 and 3,000 gallons of water. Bill is pandering to advertisers and we here at FS have so much knowledge we cant be wrong. Firewatch Cobra (Bell 209/AH-1) Aerial Supervision Helicopter. The Bush fire WAS aggressively IAd, however given the fuel and weather conditions at the time escaped rather quickly. As a former FS aviator I can confidently say that every single FS Aviation Officer from the WO to the ROs needs to be fired or reassigned. 0) Interagency Aviation Life Support Equipment Guide 2021. Buying a/c is a lot like buying a house. To request access to this page, submit request to, Forest Service Acquisition Management Incident Procurement, Solicitations on Federal Business Opportunities, Flight Rate Charts Effective February 16, 2021for contracts awarded 2013-2017, Flight Rate Charts Effective February 16, 2021 for contracts awarded 2018-2021, Crews Type 2 IA, Standard Form 1449, 2022 Summary, National Type 2-IA Crew COR Designation Letter, National Type 2-IA Crew Performance Evaluation, Type 2 Crew Generic Agreement 1202SC21Q0001, 2020 COVID-19 Modification for Mobile Shower Facilities, Mobile Shower Performance Evaluation Form, 2020 COVID-19 Modification for Mobile Food Services, Retardant Contractor Performance Evaluation Form, Retardant Contracts COR Designation Letters, National Mobile Shower COR Designation Letter, National Long Term Fire Retardant Contract.